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18.0
Hi guys,
time to start thinking about an update to version 18. I have a few things that I want to fix, however, to be quite honest, it is getting more and more difficult to come up with some new features. Over the last 17 versions I added practically all ideas that I had. I therefore welcome any ideas you might have.
However, please keep in mind these might not all be added. There are often things that might look cool or easy, but looking at it from a different perspective they might be problematic or extremely time-consuming. What I can promise is that I will read all your replies below and see what I can come up with.
A few tips:
- I want to concentrate especially on things that all users can benefit from (i.e. I understand for example a few of you have some very unique sensor that you might want to see implemented, but given my limited time I want to concentrate on things that can be used by a larger proportion of users, likewise some hyperlocal plugins/blocks are something Im currently not really considering)
- I would rather add/modify things which do not rely on other sources - honestly, if I was to design Meteotemplate today from scratch I would not create so many scripts which use external sources. It is of course nice because it is often impossible to use your own station - radar data, forecasts, current conditions from the country, earthquake data, marine, flight data.... on the other hand, these services often change their pages, APIs etc. and it all becomes a nightmare to maintain. Lot of time goes into it with no visible effect (other than "it works") and I therefore want to concentrate on things, which are unlikely to "break".
- there is already quite a few features and pages, this is not to say I will not consider adding new ones, but maybe improving on already existing things or adding more customization options is a better choice
In conclusion - you are free to suggest what you want and I will choose what I want from it depending on several things - usefulness, how well it fits to the concept of Meteotemplate, how many users would use it and how difficult it would be to implement (sometimes trivial things might mean rewriting dozens of scripts), how well I can test it.
At this point I also cannot tell when the new version will be out, because I still dont know what exactly it will include.
time to start thinking about an update to version 18. I have a few things that I want to fix, however, to be quite honest, it is getting more and more difficult to come up with some new features. Over the last 17 versions I added practically all ideas that I had. I therefore welcome any ideas you might have.
However, please keep in mind these might not all be added. There are often things that might look cool or easy, but looking at it from a different perspective they might be problematic or extremely time-consuming. What I can promise is that I will read all your replies below and see what I can come up with.
A few tips:
- I want to concentrate especially on things that all users can benefit from (i.e. I understand for example a few of you have some very unique sensor that you might want to see implemented, but given my limited time I want to concentrate on things that can be used by a larger proportion of users, likewise some hyperlocal plugins/blocks are something Im currently not really considering)
- I would rather add/modify things which do not rely on other sources - honestly, if I was to design Meteotemplate today from scratch I would not create so many scripts which use external sources. It is of course nice because it is often impossible to use your own station - radar data, forecasts, current conditions from the country, earthquake data, marine, flight data.... on the other hand, these services often change their pages, APIs etc. and it all becomes a nightmare to maintain. Lot of time goes into it with no visible effect (other than "it works") and I therefore want to concentrate on things, which are unlikely to "break".
- there is already quite a few features and pages, this is not to say I will not consider adding new ones, but maybe improving on already existing things or adding more customization options is a better choice
In conclusion - you are free to suggest what you want and I will choose what I want from it depending on several things - usefulness, how well it fits to the concept of Meteotemplate, how many users would use it and how difficult it would be to implement (sometimes trivial things might mean rewriting dozens of scripts), how well I can test it.
At this point I also cannot tell when the new version will be out, because I still dont know what exactly it will include.
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Re: 18.0
To be honest I think for a template that serves a personal weather station,
I can't think of any more to put in here. For me it has it all and more
Thanks for perfect template
Roger
I can't think of any more to put in here. For me it has it all and more
Thanks for perfect template
Roger
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Re: 18.0
Hi Jachym,
One problem that I see crop up in many posts is the problem with the way .jpgs are stored from web cams, the main problem seems to be their build up on your hosting plan, before you know it you're getting a warning from your hosting company saying that you've exceeded your maximum 'Indodes'
I know this has been discussed before and it maybe too complicated to change after MTs original design, but it would be nice to see a folder hierarchy similar to below and an automatic delete process after so many days/weeks/months/years or maybe, we're now in March, therefore delete all of January, we're now in April delete all of February.
On a more selfish request (which will have very few MT users needing), a lightning block counter for the Weatherflow station (assuming it will hook up to Meteobridge as planned).
As Roger mentions above, MT pretty much has everything and the kitchen sink already - so you may have to retire early.
One problem that I see crop up in many posts is the problem with the way .jpgs are stored from web cams, the main problem seems to be their build up on your hosting plan, before you know it you're getting a warning from your hosting company saying that you've exceeded your maximum 'Indodes'
I know this has been discussed before and it maybe too complicated to change after MTs original design, but it would be nice to see a folder hierarchy similar to below and an automatic delete process after so many days/weeks/months/years or maybe, we're now in March, therefore delete all of January, we're now in April delete all of February.
On a more selfish request (which will have very few MT users needing), a lightning block counter for the Weatherflow station (assuming it will hook up to Meteobridge as planned).
As Roger mentions above, MT pretty much has everything and the kitchen sink already - so you may have to retire early.
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Re: 18.0
Hi Johnny,
- webcam - planned, this however is a plugin, so not related to v18
- lightning counter - API supports already supports lightnings.... so once it is being sent by MB I can create a block/plugin without modifying the template
Right so so far it looks like you are telling me to keep v17
- webcam - planned, this however is a plugin, so not related to v18
- lightning counter - API supports already supports lightnings.... so once it is being sent by MB I can create a block/plugin without modifying the template
Right so so far it looks like you are telling me to keep v17
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Re: 18.0
Would be nice to have the facebook share button to show todays weather with a picture.
Or at least a nice picture of the website.
Never got that thing to work
If you understand what I say.
Or at least a nice picture of the website.
Never got that thing to work
If you understand what I say.
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Re: 18.0
Hi,
not quite, but you can share the sticker, the one you have in your signature. It shows current conditions with a few max/mins. Once shared to FB, FB saves the current image so it wont change anymore and will create what you are after.
not quite, but you can share the sticker, the one you have in your signature. It shows current conditions with a few max/mins. Once shared to FB, FB saves the current image so it wont change anymore and will create what you are after.
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Re: 18.0
I can think of a couple things I'd like to see"
- I use a custom image in the header, would be nice if could automatically switch images based on season or some other criteria!
- "Go To Top:" button for those long long pages
- any room for more optimization to speed page loading? not complaining about current just wondering!
Bill
- I use a custom image in the header, would be nice if could automatically switch images based on season or some other criteria!
- "Go To Top:" button for those long long pages
- any room for more optimization to speed page loading? not complaining about current just wondering!
Bill
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Re: 18.0
I'm all for the Go To Top Button idea BlueBear mentioned.
It would be even more special if said button was not stuck/static at the bottom of the page but rather a floating button, along with the option to use the button... or not.
~Bob~
It would be even more special if said button was not stuck/static at the bottom of the page but rather a floating button, along with the option to use the button... or not.
~Bob~
Just BE NICE! That's all it takes to be a decent human...
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Re: 18.0
Support for iOS.
I know that there are 'work around's available and that this is more a background technical thing but it would open a new market.
Susan
I know that there are 'work around's available and that this is more a background technical thing but it would open a new market.
Susan
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Re: 18.0
Hi guys,
- go to top floating button - already implemented on some pages, so you have to tell me which ones exactly you would like me to add this to as well (ideally a link and keep in mind we are now talking about the template, not blocks or plugins)
- iOS - MT runs in a browser, which means that it completely disregards the OS, running MT in Chrome, Firefox etc. on Windows or Mac will make no difference
- go to top floating button - already implemented on some pages, so you have to tell me which ones exactly you would like me to add this to as well (ideally a link and keep in mind we are now talking about the template, not blocks or plugins)
- iOS - MT runs in a browser, which means that it completely disregards the OS, running MT in Chrome, Firefox etc. on Windows or Mac will make no difference
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Re: 18.0
Pages needing the go to top floating button
- Main page - PaulMy's for example http://www.komokaweather.com/j-template ... esktop.php
- Admin Pages - Block and Plugin setups
At one time you mad a comment that maybe it could be implemented in footer.php ???
- Main page - PaulMy's for example http://www.komokaweather.com/j-template ... esktop.php
- Admin Pages - Block and Plugin setups
At one time you mad a comment that maybe it could be implemented in footer.php ???
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Re: 18.0
Hello Jachym!!!
1) A few things others have mentioned "Johnny" About the cam capture which I have myself thought about and reluctant to mention because of the work already involved. I have been thinking myself but have not had to worry as with my host (1an1) I don't need to do anything for the next 4-5 years on an unlimited plan but still have a max limit of 1 terabyte which as I said at 5 min intervals will for the most part run out. I have been running through my head how to write a script to delete from the DB by month or year and again from the upload plugin folder by month or by year only.
2) The other thing I'd like to see in the "Data quality check" is a sticky for the top bar as you have on the main opening screen but again reluctant to ask as I am not sure what is involved or difficulty level in changing this.
https://andykere-hotmail.tinytake.com/s ... 84MzA4NDY0
I from time to time have to do manual edits due to power failures or OBserverIP issues I don't always catch in the time waiting for the site is down emails. I have a hard time even after doing it so many times remember which colume goes with which I need to edit.
For the time being this is all I can think of as you already have more features, charts, graphs installed than I would have imagined for a project of this sort for which I tremendously thank you for. If I think of anything else I will let you know.
Andy
Edit: I just remember one other thing I was thinking about. Adding the ability in the footer a small link in the bottom left side
to add our own privacy policy and cookie policy as required by EU laws now.
1) A few things others have mentioned "Johnny" About the cam capture which I have myself thought about and reluctant to mention because of the work already involved. I have been thinking myself but have not had to worry as with my host (1an1) I don't need to do anything for the next 4-5 years on an unlimited plan but still have a max limit of 1 terabyte which as I said at 5 min intervals will for the most part run out. I have been running through my head how to write a script to delete from the DB by month or year and again from the upload plugin folder by month or by year only.
2) The other thing I'd like to see in the "Data quality check" is a sticky for the top bar as you have on the main opening screen but again reluctant to ask as I am not sure what is involved or difficulty level in changing this.
https://andykere-hotmail.tinytake.com/s ... 84MzA4NDY0
I from time to time have to do manual edits due to power failures or OBserverIP issues I don't always catch in the time waiting for the site is down emails. I have a hard time even after doing it so many times remember which colume goes with which I need to edit.
For the time being this is all I can think of as you already have more features, charts, graphs installed than I would have imagined for a project of this sort for which I tremendously thank you for. If I think of anything else I will let you know.
Andy
Edit: I just remember one other thing I was thinking about. Adding the ability in the footer a small link in the bottom left side
to add our own privacy policy and cookie policy as required by EU laws now.
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Re: 18.0
Hi,
I will look at the rest, just regarding your GDPR note, MT does not store any user personal data so you dont need any cookie notice, I know some people did this themselves, but I think it is redundant and only annoying. MT is not a site where you register with a name etc. Nothing like that is stored anywhere. Cookie is only used to store eg. color scheme and such information does not require this notice.
I will look at the rest, just regarding your GDPR note, MT does not store any user personal data so you dont need any cookie notice, I know some people did this themselves, but I think it is redundant and only annoying. MT is not a site where you register with a name etc. Nothing like that is stored anywhere. Cookie is only used to store eg. color scheme and such information does not require this notice.
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Re: 18.0
Hi Jachym and thanks for the reply.Jachym wrote: ↑Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:56 pm Hi,
I will look at the rest, just regarding your GDPR note, MT does not store any user personal data so you dont need any cookie notice, I know some people did this themselves, but I think it is redundant and only annoying. MT is not a site where you register with a name etc. Nothing like that is stored anywhere. Cookie is only used to store eg. color scheme and such information does not require this notice.
Yes I'm well aware that MT doesn't store any user data other than cookies but the way I read the GDPR isn't some sort of notice required to inform users that in fact MT does not store there user info etc.?
Andy
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No, GDPR does not mean you have to "always" inform about the situation. It stands for "general data protection regulation" and is intended for pages/users which store personal data. Others dont have to worry about it.
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Re: 18.0
re my suggestion about iOS: I should have said iPad as per viewtopic.php?f=51&t=1356&p=6401&hilit=ipad#p6401
Susan
Susan
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Re: 18.0
Hi,
I think the problem with iPad was one of the menus, which should be ok in the new mobile version. Also I have no way to test what iPad does and it behaves oddly so Im afraid this is something that will remain like this. I tried several options (blindly) and was told it did not work
I think the problem with iPad was one of the menus, which should be ok in the new mobile version. Also I have no way to test what iPad does and it behaves oddly so Im afraid this is something that will remain like this. I tried several options (blindly) and was told it did not work
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Re: 18.0
I do wish there was a better mobile option. To get the data on the go I need, I have to use a different template for my iPad and iPhone.
I really wish I only needed to maintain a single template.
I would offer to help build a module style mobile platform but my programming skills are not such that I can.
I would be happy to work with someone who has programming skills with the organization and design of such a platform,
I have read where some have started such a project but not heard of a finish.
As to the desktop, I actually cannot think of a single piece of information that I do not have a pathway to getting.
Floating Top button sounds good, but the Home button works fine for me. I actually have "Home" programmed into my mouse as button 3, so I don't even use the keyboard.
Tom
I really wish I only needed to maintain a single template.
I would offer to help build a module style mobile platform but my programming skills are not such that I can.
I would be happy to work with someone who has programming skills with the organization and design of such a platform,
I have read where some have started such a project but not heard of a finish.
As to the desktop, I actually cannot think of a single piece of information that I do not have a pathway to getting.
Floating Top button sounds good, but the Home button works fine for me. I actually have "Home" programmed into my mouse as button 3, so I don't even use the keyboard.
Tom
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Re: 18.0
Hi Tom,
the mobile version introduced in v17 should work fine on any device. I tried it on several phones, tablets, including apple, so if there is something that is not working, please let me know.
This one:
http://www.meteotemplate.com/template/p ... /index.php
the mobile version introduced in v17 should work fine on any device. I tried it on several phones, tablets, including apple, so if there is something that is not working, please let me know.
This one:
http://www.meteotemplate.com/template/p ... /index.php
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Have upgraded my phone to a 1080p screen I have no issues looking at my mobile version. Older phone at 720p was an issue but still somewhat manageable. On my older 10" ASUS TF700T tablet also no issues in Standard or mobile version.
Andy
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Re: 18.0
Sorry to make it confusing. What is offered on the mobile version of the page works as intended. It just is nowhere near enough information for me on a day to day basis, or to monitor my station.
I think we already had this discussion, so I am not going there again.
I just have chosen to use the mobile version of a different template to get what I need.
I know your position on the subject I will leave it at that.
I am happy to discuss outside the forum at any time.
Tom
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Tom!!!
Can you do me a favor when you have time and look at my mobile version with your iPhone and ipad and tell me if you have a difficult time viewing. I am curious what others see.
Andy
Can you do me a favor when you have time and look at my mobile version with your iPhone and ipad and tell me if you have a difficult time viewing. I am curious what others see.
Andy