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Forecast with WU

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:30 am
by PNCATTE
Hello

The wu forecasts in the FORECAST block no longer work.

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cordially

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:51 pm
by Jachym
Hi,
most likely this is due to the end of WU API. WU is transferring to a paid mechanism, no more free APIs

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:24 pm
by dmgould
They say if you are a PWS supplying data to them, they may eventually have a free api available. Right now they do not. Their whole site is undergoing major upgrades right now, and things are not working well yet.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2019 10:56 pm
by dmgould
Within the new member settings pages they are just putting up there is an option to generate a new api key. I just generated one, but I haven't tried using it in the block yet. It basically states in agreement that it is free as long as you are a PWS contributor and that you don't use it commercially. It did not ask me for any payments.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:28 am
by PNCATTE
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:24 am
by milesb
dmgould wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:24 pm They say if you are a PWS supplying data to them, they may eventually have a free api available. Right now they do not. Their whole site is undergoing major upgrades right now, and things are not working well yet.
I hope they decide to respond in kind to all the people that send them data, which they now want to resell, and provide API's for contributors.

I've been sending data to them since 2005, and I am currently questioning if I wish to continue.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 7:17 am
by PNCATTE
THANK YOU

Their site no longer works for APIs it generates a CLE that does not allow me to have access to forecasts

The API only serves me for forecasting.
there are other possibilities without going through WU
It will not do them any more publicity

Cordialy

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:26 pm
by milesb
My router tracks the number of packets sent to specific sites. I just looked at the report for yesterday, and my weather PC sent over 26,000 packets of data to WU yesterday. (I am running rapidfire).

I will continue for now, or until I can get an answer from them if contributors will get an API, or not. As they say "no ticky, no washy"

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:41 pm
by dmgould
Check your member settings on the new page setup. There is an api tab right there. Click into it and it will give you a new key. I doubt they would have included it in the new upgrade if they didn't have plans for it. Now the issue is the block probably needs to be modified as it's likely that the data format has changed. I'd stay in a holding pattern with them for now until the new, major upgrade from last week gets ironed out. Things haven't good too smoothly. They have clearly said in their forum they are working a free api plan for contributors.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:54 pm
by milesb
Found it, got a new API, which I have installed into the forecast block, still displays "Forecast currently not available."

I'll check it later this afternoon.

http://www.sunset-weather.com/template/indexDesktop.php

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:07 pm
by dmgould
Mine doesn't work either. I put in the new key several days ago. I'm thinking either it's related to their upgrade problems, or they have changed something in the api such that the current block code doesn't work.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:39 am
by milesb
I have attempted to escalate this to WU to explain that the API key is not allowing me to display there forecast on my website, by choosing the options where I need to provide the API key, only to receive the following message when I click 'send email' "Validation failed: weather_underground is invalid." so I'm assuming that the API key isn't even valid enough to contact them for support. The message displays only briefly, then reverts to a blank form.

I guess you won't hear any complaints or problems if the submission process won't work.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:20 pm
by djrexishere
wunderground not run the api now is a payment

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:46 am
by andyk1
milesb wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2019 4:54 pm Found it, got a new API, which I have installed into the forecast block, still displays "Forecast currently not available."

I'll check it later this afternoon.

http://www.sunset-weather.com/template/indexDesktop.php
Hello!

Looking at your site everything seems to work. Which block or plugins are you using your new IBM api key on as I can not see which is not working.

Andy

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:52 am
by andyk1
If I remember correctly when I got my new IBM api key which should be a replacement for the WU api key we are allowed 1000 calls a day for free. I remember the older WU key was 600 calls a day. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as I have not played around with it but am using there radar images in a modified camera block and works just fine without using an api key even though in setup it looks for a key. Not sure how it is working but it does.

Andy.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 2:57 pm
by milesb
andyk1 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 8:46 am Hello!

Looking at your site everything seems to work. Which block or plugins are you using your new IBM api key on as I can not see which is not working.

Andy
For the simple reason I have set Weatherground to false in the forecast block.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:39 pm
by andyk1
May I ask what the block name is so I can look at what you are having trouble with

Andy

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:53 pm
by milesb
andyk1 wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:39 pm May I ask what the block name is so I can look at what you are having trouble with

Andy
It is the forecast block, which defaults to Darksky.net at the moment. I have set WU to true so you can see it produces only a "Forecast currently not available." message.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:33 pm
by andyk1
Ok I have it. I inadvertently deleted that block because of lack of use. I see what you mean as I have allot of the choices no longer working. Strangely my Darksky API no longer works but is a good api. As far as Wunderground I think the block looks like it needs a major rewrite to get it working and I don't think anyone wants to tackle that yet till TWC and IBM settle on what the New WU will look like. Yahoo and yr.no no longer work but we knew that. I'll look at it when WU figures out what they want in a month or so maybe.

Andy

PS. I did try it with the new WU or TWC or IBM whatever their calling it now API.KEY and of course it does not work with the old block so.....

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:40 pm
by andyk1
And again strangely I see yr.No working on some sites and not others.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:11 pm
by BobW55
I just gave up on them. Over 15 years of sending Data to them, and this is how they support the users.
Shut off all my data feeds, not worth my time or hassel.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:33 pm
by milesb
I'm about ready to stop wasting all those electrons sending then data also.

Re: Forecast with WU

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:52 pm
by Dehatter
Simply replacing the old key with the new key will not work. The API call for the new key is to a different address than the old key, and the results are not exactly formatted the same as before. I have not dug into it, but this should be fixable. The new API does support a 5 day forecast, but the coding for the call and the formatting issues need to be changed.

Tom